![]() If you really feel your template is out of shape then I would suggest you contact the seller.I'm sure Jim will respond as he shares his knowledge and hard work freely - I really appreciate the help and advice I've received so far. But there is a limit to how accurate you can actually be. So you need to be as accurate as you can when you cut your joints. We want to be as accurate as we can be, because when the timber dries, things shrink and gaps open up. And then if it's not completely accurate, I pare away the wood to the knife line with my chisel, slick or other cutting edge tools. I knife all my lines and then I cut next to the knife line with my skil saw or hand saw. One teacher taught us to use a knife and knife the line. Can you do that? with a hand saw or a skil saw? I once as my timber framing teacher this question and he told me to cut the pencil line down the middle. Many years ago, a student asked me: "where to I make the cut? on the right side of the pencil line? on the left side of the pencil line?" When I use my new layout template to layout, say a tenon: My point is you will get different measurement using different tools. So, which is right? The steel combination ruler or the wooden folding ruler. ![]() As mentioned the angle of the camera makes the other lines appear to be off. In the below picture the 1" mark is dead on. In the above picture the 2" mark is dead on. Now, understanding what I said about different measuring instruments being different let's now look at this again: In the first photo the lines are off a fraction. When I measure both sides of my new one with my steel combination ruler I get the same error you get.Īs you can see in the second photo the line for 2" lines up with the line on the template. I have just checked my "new" layout template to see if mine matches yours or if yours is just a "bad one". I use both at times depending on what I'm doing. Now, I have the new layout template and the old one. It really doesn't make that much a difference. If my layout is off, by some minor amount, the entire frame is off by that same amount everywhere. One I use at the mill and another that I only use for timber frame layout. Here at my shop/yard, I have two tape measures. The lesson was use one measuring instrument on your frame layout and use it for only layout. Not many of them got the same measurement. The instructor drew a line on a timber and then asked each student to bring their tape measure over and measure the line. One of my first lessons I learned in timber framing was the difference between measuring instruments. Should I worry about this and try to straighten/square it up, stop using it, or am I splitting hairs and should just keep on trucking? Pencil is sharp and up tight to the square's slot. You can see on the "1 1/2, 2 1/2, 3 1/2" scale that it registered spot on at 2 1/2" from the edge. But it springs right back when I take the pressure off.īelow shows the offset. If I press the base into the timber (very hard), it almost fixes the problem (I am pushing it back into square). Hence the offset I am finding in my measurements. However, on the side of the base that is out of square towards the ruler (right in 1st picture), the "zero" mark of the base can't make contact with the edge because is out of square and the edge of the base is touching but not the inside corner of the base. On the side of the base that is out of square away from the ruler (left 1st in picture), there is no problem with measeruments because the zero mark of the base registers fully with the timber edge. There is a slight curve to it, and the base is not 100% square to the ruler grid. I kept it stored standing up and without something else weighing on it (not saying it's impossible I somehow bent it). Not by much, but considering the price I paid plus shipping and import fees to Canada, I am slightly disappointed. I double checked my measurements with my framing square and combo square and noticed that on one side of the TF layout square, the measurements on the timbers are off. ![]() Only started using it today as I am starting my layout. Hi Guys - apologize for the long post in advance! Update: See next page for update on replaced square.
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